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Jonathan Kozol On Kids Who Survive Inner Cities Copyright © 2012 NPR. For personal, noncommercial use only. See Terms of Use. For other uses, prior permission required. I'm Michel Martin and this is TELL ME MORE from NPR News. But first we want to spend a few minutes talking about something that many of us spend more time thinking about at this time of year when many celebrate their good fortune. Our next guest is Jonathan Kozol, a man who's brought the stories of the nation's poor out of the shadows through his many best-selling books. His latest is called "Fire in the Ashes." Jonathan Kozol, thank you so much for speaking with us. JONATHAN KOZOL: Thanks so much, Michel. MARTIN: You start the book telling us about two young men, Eric and Christopher, and I was hoping you could just briefly lay out their stories. KOZOL: OK. You know, I kind of predicted that would happen, but I didn't realize, in these two cases, that it would lead to really tragic results. MARTIN: What did happen to them? KOZOL: That might have... MARTIN: No. KOZOL: Yes.